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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Open&#8221; Cloud is Coming</title>
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		<title>By: Cloud Futures Pt. 3: Focused Clouds &#124; Cloudscaling</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3236</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud Futures Pt. 3: Focused Clouds &#124; Cloudscaling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on a particular target market.  EngineYard (and their close cousin Heroku who I have mentioned before) focuses on providing a fully managed and automated Ruby-on-Rails (RoR) stack to web startups. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on a particular target market.  EngineYard (and their close cousin Heroku who I have mentioned before) focuses on providing a fully managed and automated Ruby-on-Rails (RoR) stack to web startups. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: blog.dsa-research.org &#187; Archives &#187; Interfaces for Private and Public Cloud Computing</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3168</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.dsa-research.org &#187; Archives &#187; Interfaces for Private and Public Cloud Computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Interoperability is not only about standardization of interfaces, but also about portability of virtual machines. The DMTF Open Virtualization Format (OVF) can be used as a means for customers of an IaaS provider to express their infrastructural needs. OVF was not designed with cloud computing in mind, so there are issues that need to be solved when applied to this environment, in particular, on automatic elasticity, self-configuration and deployment constraints. In any case, standards for cloud interoperability (OCCI) and virtual machine portability (OVF) are imminent and m.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Interoperability is not only about standardization of interfaces, but also about portability of virtual machines. The DMTF Open Virtualization Format (OVF) can be used as a means for customers of an IaaS provider to express their infrastructural needs. OVF was not designed with cloud computing in mind, so there are issues that need to be solved when applied to this environment, in particular, on automatic elasticity, self-configuration and deployment constraints. In any case, standards for cloud interoperability (OCCI) and virtual machine portability (OVF) are imminent and m&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by GirishB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by GirishB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was Twitted by GirishB - Real-url.org [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mauliesmalls (mauliesmalls)</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3158</link>
		<dc:creator>mauliesmalls (mauliesmalls)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The open cloud is coming: http://tinyurl.com/dkoctp - Thanks &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Cloudbook&quot;&gt;@Cloudbook&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/randybias&quot;&gt;@randybias&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The open cloud is coming: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dkoctp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dkoctp</a> &#8211; Thanks <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/Cloudbook">@Cloudbook</a> and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/randybias">@randybias</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: bmizerany (Blake Mizerany)</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3159</link>
		<dc:creator>bmizerany (Blake Mizerany)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/heroku&quot;&gt;@heroku&lt;/a&gt; gets an `A` for openness!  http://bit.ly/pskfl -- see half way down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/heroku">@heroku</a> gets an `A` for openness!  <a href="http://bit.ly/pskfl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/pskfl</a> &#8212; see half way down</p>
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		<title>By: jamesheroku</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3160</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesheroku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great read, we couldn&#039;t agree more.  And thanks for the good grade, we put a lot of focus on openness in our architectural decisions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Happy to talk more about &quot;openness&quot; any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great read, we couldn&#39;t agree more.  And thanks for the good grade, we put a lot of focus on openness in our architectural decisions.</p>
<p>Happy to talk more about &#8220;openness&#8221; any time.</p>
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		<title>By: randybias</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3157</link>
		<dc:creator>randybias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmitriy,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your comment.  I&#039;m afraid I have to disagree.  There may be some folks who want pink cars, but almost clearly a minority.  If they were big enough they would constitute a real &#039;market force&#039; and car manufacturers would produce pink cars.  More importantly, cars and the cloud couldn&#039;t be further apart so your analogy is a bit off-base.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The cost to a car manufacturer to provide, ship, distribute, and stock cars with infrequently requested colors for small groups is prohibitive. The Internet and Internet-related services like the cloud, by their nature allow for smaller markets (in aggregate) to be worth servicing once a cost-benefit analysis is done.  This is the whole &#039;long tail&#039; in action.  In effect, there can be a large &#039;market force&#039; because of the reach available to Internet services.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of choice, the main thrust of this article is that customers will (and already do) demand choice.  GoGrid already sees a number of customers move from other cloud providers who don&#039;t provide them with the kinds of choices they want and vice versa.  The &#039;market&#039; usually votes with it&#039;s feet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My assertion is that once a segment of the cloud computing market adopts &#039;open&#039;, &#039;open enough&#039;, or &#039;de facto&#039; standards customers will begin to move to those segments away from the more closed segments.  Just like they have with social media sites, news, and related.  People want cheap, easy, and accessible.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmitriy,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I&#39;m afraid I have to disagree.  There may be some folks who want pink cars, but almost clearly a minority.  If they were big enough they would constitute a real &#39;market force&#39; and car manufacturers would produce pink cars.  More importantly, cars and the cloud couldn&#39;t be further apart so your analogy is a bit off-base.</p>
<p>The cost to a car manufacturer to provide, ship, distribute, and stock cars with infrequently requested colors for small groups is prohibitive. The Internet and Internet-related services like the cloud, by their nature allow for smaller markets (in aggregate) to be worth servicing once a cost-benefit analysis is done.  This is the whole &#39;long tail&#39; in action.  In effect, there can be a large &#39;market force&#39; because of the reach available to Internet services.</p>
<p>In terms of choice, the main thrust of this article is that customers will (and already do) demand choice.  GoGrid already sees a number of customers move from other cloud providers who don&#39;t provide them with the kinds of choices they want and vice versa.  The &#39;market&#39; usually votes with it&#39;s feet.</p>
<p>My assertion is that once a segment of the cloud computing market adopts &#39;open&#39;, &#39;open enough&#39;, or &#39;de facto&#39; standards customers will begin to move to those segments away from the more closed segments.  Just like they have with social media sites, news, and related.  People want cheap, easy, and accessible.</p>
<p>&#8211;Randy</p>
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		<title>By: cloudmeme (cloudmeme)</title>
		<link>http://cloudscaling.com/blog/technology/the-open-cloud-is-coming/comment-page-1#comment-3153</link>
		<dc:creator>cloudmeme (cloudmeme)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The “Open” Cloud is Coming --neotactics.com-- http://bit.ly/pskfl #cloudcomputing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “Open” Cloud is Coming &#8211;neotactics.com&#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/pskfl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/pskfl</a> #cloudcomputing</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  &#039;open enough&#039; is still &#039;open&#039; as far as I&#039;m concerned.  I know some folks will disagree with me on this, but when I say &#039;widely available&#039; that&#039;s what I mean.  De facto standards are usually just as good as open standards in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  &#8216;open enough&#8217; is still &#8216;open&#8217; as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  I know some folks will disagree with me on this, but when I say &#8216;widely available&#8217; that&#8217;s what I mean.  De facto standards are usually just as good as open standards in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Rational Survivability &#187; Interesting Nuggets: Quick Tidbits I Find Compelling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rational Survivability &#187; Interesting Nuggets: Quick Tidbits I Find Compelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I noticed that the charter is focused on IaaS/PaaS but not SaaS.  Telling. Randy Bias says the Open Cloud Is Coming - I reviewed Randy&#8217;s original draft and he&#8217;s done a good job refining his points [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I noticed that the charter is focused on IaaS/PaaS but not SaaS.  Telling. Randy Bias says the Open Cloud Is Coming &#8211; I reviewed Randy&#8217;s original draft and he&#8217;s done a good job refining his points [...]</p>
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