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		<title>By: VMware&#8217;s vCloud API Forces Cloud Standards &#124; Cloudscaling</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMware&#8217;s vCloud API Forces Cloud Standards &#124; Cloudscaling</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] notion of &#8216;cloud&#8217; being an operational process change and NOT a technology or simple outsourcing.  This is frequently lost in the hype around &#8216;auto-scaling&#8216; and such.  By an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leaving Yahoo! to become a Racker in the cloud at the other end of the web &#124; Mark Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaving Yahoo! to become a Racker in the cloud at the other end of the web &#124; Mark Collier</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] fair amount of press (creating some confusion in the process) called &#8220;cloud computing&#8221;. Everyone has a different definition, but at the core it&#8217;s still about making it easy to run your business on the web without [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 12Sided, The Blog &#187; Great read at Cloudscaling</title>
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		<dc:creator>12Sided, The Blog &#187; Great read at Cloudscaling</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Randy Bias&#8217; Cloudscaling blog has a must read for anyone interested in Cloud Computing: The ‘Cloud’ Is NOT Outsourcing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: davesmithcloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>davesmithcloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3505&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@randybias&lt;/a&gt; 

Interesting, I&#039;ve been talking to VMware a fair amount and I want them to really sparkle on vCloud not just persist in their virt domination. I&#039;ll watch for your vCloud blog.</description>
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<p>Interesting, I&#8217;ve been talking to VMware a fair amount and I want them to really sparkle on vCloud not just persist in their virt domination. I&#8217;ll watch for your vCloud blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Why mobile applications need cloud services &#124; SataByte.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why mobile applications need cloud services &#124; SataByte.com</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Cloud Doplet #87 - Twitpocalypse Now &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Doplet #87 - Twitpocalypse Now &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: randybias</title>
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		<dc:creator>randybias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3490&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@James Watters&lt;/a&gt; 

Thanks for such a thoughtful and well written response.  I think what is missing is that, at least in the enterprise, there won&#039;t be a fragmentation.  It&#039;s going to be all VMware all the time.  There is still no credible contender to the upcoming vCloud product and I&#039;ve looked at everything in a fair bit of detail now.  I say this as someone who would far prefer to see an open standard.  Regardless, a de facto standard for enterprise clouds will mean that hosting providers who also use vCloud will have the possibility for very strong integration to internal enterprise clouds.  In fact, I have a large blog posting I&#039;m working for just this subject.  The real fragmentation you outline will exist more within the public clouds realm than the enterprise.

Interface/API/arch standards are very important to me.  That&#039;s why I released the GoGrid API under an open license, which then caused Sun and RackSpace to follow suit.  It also inspired a lot of the work on the OCCI (Open Cloud Computing Interface) API.

Absolutely agree with the thrust of your comment, but don&#039;t think these dangers actually exist.  Enterprises are going to adopt vCloud.  There&#039;s nothing else on the horizon for them.  A de facto standard (like the Cisco IOS command line interface) is, practically speaking, as good as any open standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3490" rel="nofollow">@James Watters</a> </p>
<p>Thanks for such a thoughtful and well written response.  I think what is missing is that, at least in the enterprise, there won&#8217;t be a fragmentation.  It&#8217;s going to be all VMware all the time.  There is still no credible contender to the upcoming vCloud product and I&#8217;ve looked at everything in a fair bit of detail now.  I say this as someone who would far prefer to see an open standard.  Regardless, a de facto standard for enterprise clouds will mean that hosting providers who also use vCloud will have the possibility for very strong integration to internal enterprise clouds.  In fact, I have a large blog posting I&#8217;m working for just this subject.  The real fragmentation you outline will exist more within the public clouds realm than the enterprise.</p>
<p>Interface/API/arch standards are very important to me.  That&#8217;s why I released the GoGrid API under an open license, which then caused Sun and RackSpace to follow suit.  It also inspired a lot of the work on the OCCI (Open Cloud Computing Interface) API.</p>
<p>Absolutely agree with the thrust of your comment, but don&#8217;t think these dangers actually exist.  Enterprises are going to adopt vCloud.  There&#8217;s nothing else on the horizon for them.  A de facto standard (like the Cisco IOS command line interface) is, practically speaking, as good as any open standard.</p>
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		<title>By: BotchagalupeMarks for August 2nd - 11:43 &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BotchagalupeMarks for August 2nd - 11:43 &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The &#8216;Cloud&#8217; Is NOT Outsourcing &#124; Cloudscaling - This is where the argument breaks down. If I&#8217;m a developer in a departmental team inside a large enterprise and I can go to either a public cloud or an internal cloud and the experience is just the same then from my perspective they are both clouds. Both are &#8220;not my problem&#8221;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The &#39;Cloud&#39; Is NOT Outsourcing &#124; Cloudscaling &#171; Outsourcing</title>
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		<dc:creator>The &#39;Cloud&#39; Is NOT Outsourcing &#124; Cloudscaling &#171; Outsourcing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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